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Unregistered
08-04-2010, 08:32 AM
Form the Herald Star article titled 'ODOT salt records under question'
http://www.heraldstaronline.com/page/content.detail/id/544915/ODOT-salt-records-under-question.html?nav=5010

If you read through the article, buried deep down and as an after though to the original story is the piece on our county's leader John Abdalla which mentions his unethical activities.

I'm glad to see that the Herald Star is doing its job to inform the public of the torubles the county is having, but what did Uncle John promise you for not investigating him properly?

Well at least the Herald Star mentioned Abdalla; WTOV must have a media blackout on anything not related to FRED Abdalla!

The inspector general also stated in the report that John Abdalla, Jefferson County Democratic Party chairman, has been involved in the screening and hiring of ODOT workers.

One garage employee told the inspector general's office that, after years of trying unsuccessfully to get hired by ODOT, the employee received a phone call in 2007 from Abdalla, who asked the prospective hire to come to his restaurant, Abdalla's Steak House, in Stratton. The employee said Abdalla gave the employee an ODOT job application and the employee filled out the application at the restaurant, the report stated. The employee was hired by ODOT shortly thereafter, the report stated.

Abdalla had no comment on the inspector general's report.

Another county garage employee told the inspector general's office that Abdalla summoned the employee to his steakhouse in 2008 to interview for an ODOT job. Abdalla asked questions about the employee's voting record, including whether the employee was a loyal Democrat, the report stated. The employee was hired by ODOT.

The inspector general's report noted that ODOT is one of the state's largest agencies and employs hundreds of workers in all 88 counties, and ODOT has a long history of cronyism under Democratic and Republican administrations.

"It is a long and accepted practice by both parties that the party in power often will give preference in hiring to workers who are politically and ideologically aligned with the administration that holds office," the report stated.

Unregistered
08-04-2010, 12:57 PM
And if you would have posted the rest of the article, it says he was following accepted guidelines.

He did NO UNETHICAL behavior according to this report. He was just following the normal procedures that have been going on for years.

It also states they have since changed the laws, and it's no longer legal to do that, but it states this occured before the law was changed, and he was well within acceptable guidelines to do what he did, and it was COMMON practice among both parties to do this.

Don't blame the politicians, blame the voters for allowing such crazy laws.

Unregistered
08-04-2010, 05:18 PM
Wow.. TV 9 did a real biased story on it also. They did not mention that what occured was perfectly legal, AND common practice.

I thought news 9 only trampled on little folks, seems they have no regard on who you are when it comes to smearing your image

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 02:56 AM
Here is a different version someone else posted.

Several ODOT employees confirmed to us that Jefferson County Democratic Party
Chairman John Abdalla, who also serves as mayor of the village of Stratton, has been
involved in the screening and hiring of employees at the Jefferson County Garage. One
garage employee told us that, after years of trying unsuccessfully to get hired by ODOT,
the employee received a phone call in 2007 from Abdalla, who asked the prospective hire
to come to his restaurant, Abdalla’s Steak House in Stratton. The employee said Abdalla
gave the employee an ODOT job application and the employee filled out the application
at the restaurant. The employee was hired by ODOT shortly thereafter.
Another county garage employee told us that Abdalla summoned the employee to his
steakhouse in 2008 to interview for an ODOT job. Abdalla asked questions about the
employee’s voting record, including whether the employee was a loyal Democrat. The
employee responded “yes,” but later remembered having voted for a Republican
candidate in a previous election. After informing Abdalla of the omission, the employee
said Abdalla responded: “I appreciate your honesty because . . . I wouldn’t have
appreciated you hiding that from me.” Abdalla then gave the employee an envelope to
deliver to a senior District 11 ODOT official. The employee was hired shortly thereafter.
In March 2010, while we were reviewing allegations of political hiring involving the
Jefferson County Democratic Party, the Hancock County Democratic Party posted an
announcement on its website headlined, “Jobs Available at ODOT.” The announcement
(Exhibit N) read, in part: “Democrats interested in seasonal jobs at ODOT (the Ohio
Department of Transportation) are to contact Hancock County Democratic Party Chair
Nancy Stephani .

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 08:37 AM
Are all the loyal Democrats, loyal Republicans when the party changes power? Hell, I'd be a loyal anything for that kind of job security!!

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 10:47 AM
What is interesting also is, I believe, the Dem county chairman is not elected by popular vote. There are a handfull of


central commitee people who.. are elected in primary of prez years , you need 5 signatures in your area. Its this small group of people who elect the party chairman.

Many people are not even aware of the central commite people. I guess if you run for this office, you will almost automatically win, most precints don't even have anyone filling this positon.

after 20100 election when petition is available.

March of 2012

And these members, the central commitee people, believe it or not, vote in private, by paper in a hat I was told, on who is to become the Party chairman! Who, in this story gets to decide who gets the jobs, or did.

Amazing... in the USA, it all boils down to people secretly putting votes on little pieces of paper, that determines who gets the power to hand out jobs!

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 12:00 PM
And if you would have posted the rest of the article, it says he was following accepted guidelines.

He did NO UNETHICAL behavior according to this report. He was just following the normal procedures that have been going on for years.

It also states they have since changed the laws, and it's no longer legal to do that, but it states this occured before the law was changed, and he was well within acceptable guidelines to do what he did, and it was COMMON practice among both parties to do this.

Don't blame the politicians, blame the voters for allowing such crazy laws.

So just because something isn't illegal it isn't unethical? The practice which John dealt in is unethical and should be frowned upon by all in the county. Republican or Democrat - I don't care who is in charge, there are hundreds of individuals more qualified for some of these positions, if the departments hired on qualifications rather than political ideaology.

Come to think of it... Look around Jefferson County, try and figure out which government employees got to where they are because they knew John Abdalla. I bet more people are in their positions in thsi county because of WHO they knew versus WHAT they knew.

I don't know how anyone can condone John's actions here!

WTOV is finally doing some decent reporting on this subject! The Herald Star should do the same too!

For decades I have lived in this county and heard of these dealings, not just with ODOT but at JFS and other county positions, this is unacceptable and eneds to be properly investigated!!!

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 08:22 PM
I think it’s about time for John Abdalla to step down from all positions. “Jeff. Co. Dem party chair” “Jeff. Co. Board of elections”. He can still be mayor of Stratton because no one gives a shit about that bump. It’s 2010 and Abdalla thinks he can still get away with this shit? And what really get’s me is, people in this Valley think he’s an old school Italian man… but he’s not… he’s Lebanese

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 08:33 PM
What is interesting also is, I believe, the Dem county chairman is not elected by popular vote. There are a handfull of


central commitee people who.. are elected in primary of prez years , you need 5 signatures in your area. Its this small group of people who elect the party chairman.

Many people are not even aware of the central commite people. I guess if you run for this office, you will almost automatically win, most precints don't even have anyone filling this positon.

after 20100 election when petition is available.

March of 2012

And these members, the central commitee people, believe it or not, vote in private, by paper in a hat I was told, on who is to become the Party chairman! Who, in this story gets to decide who gets the jobs, or did.

Amazing... in the USA, it all boils down to people secretly putting votes on little pieces of paper, that determines who gets the power to hand out jobs!

You are correct! The Central Committee and Executive Committee elect a Chairman from the precinct committee members.

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 08:40 PM
I think it’s about time for John Abdalla to step down from all positions. “Jeff. Co. Dem party chair” “Jeff. Co. Board of elections”. He can still be mayor of Stratton because no one gives a shit about that bump. It’s 2010 and Abdalla thinks he can still get away with this shit? And what really get’s me is, people in this Valley think he’s an old school Italian man… but he’s not… he’s Lebanese

I think he's on many other boards other than those two. He's in charge of the health department, hes on the solid-waste board and does some crap with job and family services. It is time that he goes and the HS and WTOV9 need to investigate his years of bullshit!

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 10:22 PM
John is a GREAT person! He is well respected and you people need to seriously lay off Him. He did NO wrong doings!
There are many many other people who should be looked into. Quit stirring the damn pot that doesn't need stirred

Unregistered
08-05-2010, 11:57 PM
Screw him that greasy sand digger.And wtf is he doing screening the applicants, is he an employee of ODOT?Honorable.Lol You are nothing but a bunch of sheeple.

Unregistered
08-06-2010, 12:36 AM
He must have got you your job. He's a crook and you no it..... it's about time someone steps up and does something about he actions over the years. he is very bias and that's not right. he might have done some good work in the county over the years.... i'm not goin take that way from him, but when you are a public offical like he is you have to take accountability for what you say and do. He needs to retire and let some new blood take over.

Unregistered
08-06-2010, 01:24 AM
Let some new blood in? Most politicians give special perks to some yunnins, that way when they get older, they have people to fill their slots, yet still hold onto power.

The public needs to start getting involved in politics. If you don't want such practices to be legal, have the laws changed. Otherwise quit bitching and moaning like the little pussies you are. Go back and watch your football games and get drunk, and don't become active in politics, then just cry like the pathetic losing drunks you are when you don't like certain laws.

I'm not saying its ethical, but I am saying it's legal. Get off your lazy asses all you slugs, if you don't want people doing this.

Unregistered
08-06-2010, 02:07 AM
Spanky is correct. When a certain Republican Sheriff left office and was hired at ODOT. He was the go to guy for anything you might have needed from ODOT. Back in the late 70s and early 80s when many houses were being built. You needed a permit for your driveway if it accessed a State Route. That person was the one signing the permits. You fill in the rest of the story.

Unregistered
08-08-2010, 09:28 PM
What John Abdalla did was unethical - think about the possibilities that existed here...

Did John perhaps take cash or other favors to help get individuals jobs in ODOT, let alone other areas of the local political and government job scene where he has a hand in the cookie jar?

Think about this - what is John Abdalla's TRUE role in the hiring process? My frustration comes with the fact that qualified individuals are being leap frogged because they aren't in bed with Uncle John's political goons.

Some of what he did may not be illegal, but absolutely unethical and disturbing to say the least.

I didn't move to the community until 1989, but from my understanding about the previous Sheriff, he was given the job at ODOT as a way for stepping aside . Of course there is plenty of tricky and dirty things that have gone on in this area, both Republican and Democrat, but for people to exhonerate John Abdalla and claim he's a class guy and has never done anything wrong is plain and outright absurd!!!

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Parts of this message has been deleted. Sorry. I don't want subdued by stunguns the next time I get pulled over for speeding, as part of an attitude adjustment. I hope you understand.

Unregistered
08-09-2010, 10:50 AM
Think about this - what is John Abdalla's TRUE role in the hiring process? My frustration comes with the fact that qualified individuals are being leap frogged because they aren't in bed with Uncle John's political goons.

It has always been known that in Jefferson County, it was all about WHO you knew rather than what you knew! Just take a trip around to the different county departments and see who knows who, or see what that person is to the Democrat party. Many county minions are also on executive and central committees for the Democrats.

TorontoHoney
08-09-2010, 04:18 PM
I had a problem with something today. A certain division would not do anything. I call another division, and it's run by someone with the same last name. After telling them my problem, and that I spoke to another division , upon them finding out their family member could not handle it, they automatically brushed it off and said, well, we'll problably not be able to do anything either.

Nice hmmmmm?

Unregistered
08-09-2010, 08:26 PM
I had a problem with something today. A certain division would not do anything. I call another division, and it's run by someone with the same last name. After telling them my problem, and that I spoke to another division , upon them finding out their family member could not handle it, they automatically brushed it off and said, well, we'll problably not be able to do anything either.

Nice hmmmmm?

To be honest I dont have a clue what in the hell you are talking about.

Unregistered
08-10-2010, 12:27 PM
To be honest I dont have a clue what in the hell you are talking about.
I think I do... I am not sure whether this is a direct experience or an analogy of the way things are in Jefferson County.

Eitherway, the point is that if you are in cohoots with Abdalla, he makes sure those around you, especially your family is taken care of. That is what form department to department, in our county you will see people with the same common surname. They are usually direct family members.

I know a famiyl where the husband and wife both work in the county, as well as their three children now work in the county. The reaosn is because the mom did some work and had been on Abdalla's good side for some odd reason.

That is the point, plain and simple.

Unregistered
08-10-2010, 08:35 PM
Newt Gingrich warns about this, about socialism. A overpowerfull centralized goverment, controlling everyoens lives, and at the same time it snuff's out private industry. Our area is a good example. An overpowerfull local goverment, has basically destroyed this area.

Local goverment controls the unions. Without the help of the unions, or a union run company, you probably won't get all the building permits you need. The goverment in this area has a disproporinate amount of unfair control over the people. And I don't think it takes a genius to point out how our area compares to other areas.

Unregistered
08-10-2010, 08:42 PM
The Left have expanded their power through their control of academia, the elite news media, union leaders, trial lawyers, the bureaucracy, the courts, and lobbyists at the state and federal levels. They share a vision of a secular, socialist America run for the interests of the members of the political machine that keeps them in power. It will be an America where government dominates the people rather than represents them. In short, they want to use government power to change who we are and how we think.

Unregistered
08-12-2010, 12:52 PM
Local goverment controls the unions. Without the help of the unions, or a union run company, you probably won't get all the building permits you need. The goverment in this area has a disproporinate amount of unfair control over the people. And I don't think it takes a genius to point out how our area compares to other areas.

At least their are a couple local people who understand how corrupt this area is.

What I find funny now is the fact that everyone is going after the guy who couldn't count his salt invetory; that report also mentions John Abdalla - what happened to investigative reporting. Lets go after John Abdalla WTOV9!!!

Unregistered
08-17-2010, 08:58 AM
Did anyone see the letter to the editor form that reverend who was sticking up for the salt guy and prerrty much attacked the local political system for going after him and not the real culprit in John Abdalla?